See? I called it already, up above. You are not satisfied with me telling the truth. You instead want it to be the way you suspect it is. That's *your* problem, and I can't help you with that. - I only ask that you stop spreading your distrust of speech therapy in general in here. You risk damaging other stutterers. - If you had engaged differently in conversation here, our conversation would've been something else. Instead, you've turned it into a fight about being right. My usual conversations in here do not go that way - but I know you're not interested in those, since you've labeled me *your* way now - a way that makes it easy for you to dismiss me. Again, that's *your* problem. You're the one calling me a liar. I owe you nothing here.