I am convinced man, no need to argue. It's the truth, maybe not for you but for me for sure. As I said I tried, I dont have much money for it and people on internet can help me better than some of them which is sad. I will probably try the meds because I can't get through it otherwise, but u know for me meds are sht, so many side effects, addictive, after a while u need to high doses to get the same effect.....but yeah as I said I think I cant do without them. Thank you