What you're saying makes perfect sense. It's not easy, but I'll try to explain: It's definitely not a perceived confidence thing. For me, the more confident someone who stutters is (with me anyway - I appreciate a social situation is different), the hotter it is. E.g. I wouldn't like someone constantly apologising for it. I see it as part of who you are, not a 'flaw' and, that's one way believe I'm different from your average John Doe. What you said in the second paragraph was really interesting, because I had never thought about it like that. Again, hard to explain, but it's definitely not "the shame" that's hot, and I think it's not the struggle either. It's *just* the way you talk that I find hot - my brain is hard-wired like this. I guess part of that way is the struggle, but it's not *because* of the struggle that I like it. It turns me on - it simply does and I can't always explain it, but if you think about things that turn you on, can you always explain them? And to answer you final question: it's the stutter itself. It's part of who you are, like having brown eyes or a soft voice. People get turned on by things like that, but noone questions them, because they're not perceived as a flaw by most people. Unfortunately, most people think of a stutter as a weakness - it's how society views it and I believe 90% of the problems people who stutter face are because of society's perception and reaction - not because of the stutter itself. To me, it sounds normal and I can assure you it's not sadistic in nature. By this point, anyone (e.g. in a bar) would have thought I'm crazy and left. But, hey, if you made it to here, I salute you and thanks! :) Happy to answer anything else.