Thanks! I dont need them to make change or even be ready for that, but I think there's a lot out there that they dont even know exists. I didn't really care to look when I thought controls and techniques were all there was to therapy but when someone told me that there was a whole other side to things it kinda opened a new world for me. And Hey, Bill Parry isn't that bad. I've heard him speak at a few conferences (yes they let him come) and it's usually always a good presentation. A lot of his principles arent much different from what we know is "correct", he just talks about it in context of his thing. That said I personally dont think it's as rigid as HCRI.