Thanks for your insight. It's such a nuanced topic that I can ramble on about. All I can say it I wish when I was a child, someone told me it's ok to stutter. I never connected the dots, or it could all be coincidental. Im in therapy (not speech) and we have been talking about my earlier years and stuttering. I told her I became more closed off and ashamed of my stutter after third grade. I never thought anything about the timeline because you typically get self-awareness around that age anyway. But we realized this all happened right after I went to one of those intensive speech, fluency shaping clinics in 1992. My parents couldn't afford to have me go, and I think they, or somebody, reached out to the community. I was in the center section of the Sunday Paper (which was a huge deal back then. Someone / some group ended up funding the whole ordeal. Looking back, I am sure after all that effort in the attempt to make me fluent, I think I put an immense amount of pressure on myself to be fluent and like you intimated, it further strengthened that negative feedback loop. That loop lasted another 30 years.