Well look at you, fancy pants! Ain't that a load of pseudo-intellectual bullshit! Let's break it down. You said: > 10% physical and 90% psychological is arbitrary and ignorant. Of course it's arbitrary! I made those numbers up on the spot. The point was that my anxiety about stuttering plays a large role in my fluency. I also didn't claim it to be true for anyone else but myself. You might have noticed that in my choice of words when I said: > **I** wholeheartedly agree that **my** stutter is about 10 percent physical and 90 percent psychological. When **I'm** around close friends or in comfortable situations, or even just feeling particularly confident some days, **I** rarely stutter. In most other situations, **I** can hardly get a word out. Sorry if you assumed I was speaking on the behalf of all PWS. I was not. You said: > Making correlations to scientific approaches for therapy on anxiety disorders using *amphetamines* (street MDMA is never pure MDMA--you probably took some speed, cocaine heroin, mixed in) is dangerous and uninformed. What are you even implying here? I highly doubt researchers performing controlled clinical studies for MDMA use on anxiety disorders are buying street drugs. They are obtaining their supplies 100% legally and pure, I assure you. And I'm well aware that street drugs are often mixed. That's why I later reminded the OP to ALWAYS use a drug testing kit if he's going to be consuming drugs from unknown sources. Here's that little tidbit, in case you were too lazy to read to the end of my comment. >Lastly, I'll be the worried parent for a second and remind you to always be careful when consuming drugs, especially powders and crystals that you can't be sure where they came from. ALWAYS use a drug testing kit if you're not sure about it. Okay, two point defended. What's next? You said: >You are making the assumption that stuttering is an anxiety disorder You **almost** made a good point on this one. In retrospect, I can see where you might think I was implying that stuttering is entirely an anxiety/psychological disorder. I didn't mean to imply that. Rather, I was further explaining my case that social anxiety often makes symptoms of stuttering worse. As many people in this sub have commented about their own stutters "I'm nervous because I stutter and I stutter because I'm nervous." And, by reducing that anxiety, fluency improves greatly for most PWS. This has definitely been researched. Here's some examples if you'd like to read about them: https://www.stammering.org/speaking-out/articles/what-relationship-between-stuttering-and-anxiety http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/10608.php?page=2 You said: > when in fact it's a developmental disorder of the motor skills responsible for speech with neurological roots--- over time that has created performance related anxiety. In essence, things got scrambled, but they can be unscrambled. You seem pretty confident in your "facts" for someone who has no formal education in speech pathology. But, I'll give you some credit for the above statement for being partly true. Is it not a fair assumption that, among the "things that got scrambled", a stutterer's emotional and psychological mindset towards speaking situations be one of them? Below, I've linked to a few more articles implying that stuttering is a complex disorder with many variables and contributing factors (spoiler alert: including psychology). http://www.asha.org/uploadedFiles/asha/publications/cicsd/2004STheoreticalPerspectives.pdf http://www.westutter.org/who-we-help/causes-of-stuttering/ http://www.stutteringhelp.org/faq Furthermore, you said: > Removing anxiety does not unscramble the motor skills that got mixed up i.e. incorrect breathing pattern. You still would not have 100% control and confidence in your speech. I never claimed it would cure my stutter 100%, or anything of the sort. [QUIT STRAWMANNING MY ARGUMENT](https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman) I'm getting tired of tearing apart your argument, line by line. But I'm not finished making my point, so I'll continue. You said: >I have spoken to speech therapists, volunteered and worked with PhD students on stuttering research, completed my undergrad in Psychology, I have used MDMA in the past, and i've done speech therapy after years of reluctance. I think i'm qualified to speak on this. First of all, having an UNDERGRAD in psychology isn't as impressive as you think it sounds. I have a bachelors of science in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science, but I don't go around on forums claiming to be an expert in either field. Come back when you have at least a masters or any other degree that could get you a real job. Secondly, I too have spoken to speech therapists and undergone speech therapy. I did so for 12 years of my childhood, in fact. I also worked closely with professors and masters/Ph.D students in the Speech Language Pathology department at my university as a subject in their studies on speech therapy techniques. (Go ahead and read through my past comments on /r/stutter if you'd like to hear more about it) My point is, you aren't as qualified to speak on the matter as you think you are. My favorite part is coming up! Are you even still reading? I sure hope so, because ultimately, this entire argument could have been avoided if you actually read OP's post. You said: >Stop putting substances in your body as a solution... Stop living in a bizarro drug induced MDMA world for fluency --an illusion--if you recorded yourself you would see that you had no control over your speech... Maybe you didn't stutter, but your intonation, the speed at which your speaking, scattered thoughts, etc it's not day to day productive fluent speech... You sound intoxicated. I think if you had read a little closer, you would have seen that OP wasn't saying he was suddenly cured of stuttering by taking MDMA. Instead, he was explaining how being in that state of mind helped him come to a new mindset on his own feelings about his stutter. I quote, "When i was on MDMA i realised i shouldnt give a fuck about what anyone thinks." One might even use the phrase: "he realized he shouldn't have so much *ANXIETY* about his stutter." Surely, you can agree that self-acceptance, coming to terms with your stutter, and not letting it rule your life is a great first step in the long, arduous process of getting better. I won't speak on his behalf, but my response to his post was not in any way meant to imply that drugs will cure my stutter. I am well aware of that fact, unfortunately, having tried many myself over the years. I do, however, stand by my statement that this "performance anxiety" as you called it makes my stutter worse in many speaking situations. Also that MDMA (when used properly) could be a great tool in addition to psychotherapy for anxiety-related disorders and could prove helpful for stuttering-related anxiety. Which was my whole fucking point in the first place. Getting closer to the end here. You said: >Please see my longer post in this same thread. The fact that this is getting up-votes disturbs me. You are playing a role in misguiding the stuttering community. Be more responsible. I did read your post, and I must say, I agree with most of what you have to say there. Those are all fantastic points. Why didn't you just say that stuff instead of attacking my response? [As a student of psychology, you should know better](https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem) HEY, we made it to the end! Now I can be nice. Congratulations on being 7 years sober, that's fantastic. Also, kudos on the daily speech practice. I personally lack the discipline/patience to stand around and practice my speech in a mirror. That is something I would like to incorporate more into my morning routine though (which, by the way, involves daily meditation to reduce my anxiety). One of my personal favorite techniques is to memorize influential speeches and practice them on my cat. [This is my current project](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1fMvLbE85E)