Sorry for making sound like that. Yeah, i'm not telling you to just do it. depending on where you are in your stuttering journey, oftentimes you cant "just do it" and trying to can sometimes backfire. I wanted to say it is possible to do it, but maybe not yet. I know ive tried "just doing it" many times and just crashed and burned. It was only until I really got a deep understanding of whats going on with me and found a good program that I was finally able to start doing. And yes, you're right it's not "just doing it". What im doing is very carefully planned and coordinated and all kept within my current range of ability. I know you're not lazy. and I know you've tried in the past. a bunch of pump up talk isnt going to change the reality for you. but doing things, meeting people, learning more about whats available will do something. it will at least get you moving and hopefully in the right direction. thats why i advocate going to the NSA conference so it. its the ultimate resource and can really help show you whats out there to get you to where you want to be.