>*"Thinking because someone can't offer a full blown cure, why waste their time, not understanding how much one can improve breaking past their conditioning and more, and the other is that everyone must be unique therefore why bother."* Yes I agree with you. I think one major reason why speech therapy is so ineffective towards addressing our "deeply embeded" conditioning, is because stutter therapists are not specialized in "addressing conditioning". The approach / interventions to target conditioning is primarily "weggelegd (dutch word, dont know the english word)" for behavioral psychologists. In my opinion, "stuttering" is not conditoined, stuttering is simply the manifestation (that is, the outcome) of the maladaptive conditioned mechanism. But behavioral psychologists are not specialized in stuttering; the first thing they do with a stuttering client is look online and they read and say: "Stuttering is not conditioned". Then they refer the clients (who stutter) to a speech therapist who is not specialized in addressing conditioning. I think this is a major reasoning why research and progress in stuttering is stuck, in academic fields. They are going in circles because they are not specialized in a certain area in the vicious circle (of stuttering). Your thoughts?