you go ahead and post in whichever manner you like! :) feel free to refer to this subthread in particular, just so neither of us have to repeat ourselves (as we all now, _repetition_ can be... dull). i think there's a lot to be said about "outlook", and that stutterers have many different ways of understanding themselves. i know of some of them (first-hand, and conversations with other stutterers). i actually posted a personal thing on facebok just the other day about a certain way of trying to reinterpret speech shortcomings. it's not quite as optimistic as the OP here, but it's still trying to "lift" things.